Olin Moyles Ghost

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  Has anyone here been a 'chairman' for an assembly? Question with regard to the script for introductions

  by ThomasCovenant in

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  does anyone know if the chairman's introductions and announcements are completely scripted?

  particularly with the use of adjectives and adverbs when introducing talks and speakers.. 'as we listen intentedly....'.

  'we eagerly look forward to bro so and so's talk'.

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  I'm not the least bit surprised that the chairman's remarks are scripted. We all know what happens when you put an JW in front of a microphone with no script. Here's a hint: "Dear Jehovah...blah blah blah for 5 minutes...blah blah blah for a couple more minutes...Amen."
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  Knowledge of Good and Evil

  by cameo-d in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  in 1 kings 3:9, solomon asks for wisdom to discern between good and evil.

  in verse 10 we are told this request was pleasing to god that solomon had asked for this instead of riches.. wth?

  adam and eve got kicked out of the garden for wanting that same knowledge!.

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  NVL: (Genesis 2:17) . . .But as for the tree of the knowledge of good and bad you must not eat from it, for in the day you eat from it you will positively die.”

  Isn't it interesting how the first character in the Bible to tell a lie isn't Satan...rather it's God?
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  YMCA now I am mad!!!

  by loosie in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i talked to a current jw today and he told me that it came out in print from the wtbts that you can be a memebr of the ymca as long as you don't associate with the other worldlys that go there..

  omg!!!

  just a few years ago i was told that i couldn't be at the ymca because it was a christian org.. .

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  I'm gonna have to call BS on this one. There has been nothing in print retracting the WTS prohibition. A couple years ago board member Drew Sagan and his wife were DF'd for being members of the Y.
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  My daughter asked me this today.

  by thenoblelodge in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  she asked me why god didn't step in to stop tragedies.

  for example, recently twin baby girls were attacked in their cots while their parents were down stairs.

  both suffered life changing injuries.. my daughter knows a couple who have waited years for a baby and eventually had i.v.f.

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  Universal sovereignty, right? *sigh*

  A poster above referenced Epicurus who stated:

  Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?
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  finally read Crisis of Conscience

  by A.Fenderson in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i recently finished reading crisis of conscience.

  in short, it was one of the most important books i've ever read, even considering that i left the kh 13 years ago.

  i honestly cannot see how anyone could read it and still maintain that they believe in the wts religion--have any of you ever known someone to read it and actually still believe and be happy with the jw religion?

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  Brotherdan, I'm curious--as a strong JW what prompted you to read CoC?
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  MP3s !!! 2010-2011 DC TALKS

  by yknot in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  commentary on mp3s: (in addition to circulate as you see fit!).

  in light of the wts's recent attempts to conceal it's talks from broader inspection and documentation, mp3s to the public are now mostly the works of the 'conscious class' and those exjws who force themselves to endure hours upon hours of control-laced presentations.

  kudos to all those who embody anonymous.

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  At least some of the talks feature speakers from Wisconsin, USA.
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  Ever feel guilty listening to the Rolling Stones as a dub?

  by undercover in

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  2. friends

  this is aimed more for people who grew up when the beatles and stones were first popular, i guess.

  now it's completely silly and ridiculous, but it's funny how hearing an old song on the radio can bring back certain memories.... back in the 60s, early 70s i was a big beatles fan but for the most part none of their music was ever labeled 'dangerous' or 'subversive', even as a youth growing up in the jw cult.

  even their more psyhcedelic stuff was tamer than other bands of the era.

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  I always liked sympathy for the devil, even as a dub. I thought the song was generally consistent with JW theology--namely that the devil was controlling governments, causing wars, etc.

  Of course, there's the line about Jesus Christ having his "moment of doubt..." but overall the song seemed consistent with what I believed about the devil at the time.
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  MP3s !!! 2010-2011 DC TALKS

  by yknot in

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  2. bible

  commentary on mp3s: (in addition to circulate as you see fit!).

  in light of the wts's recent attempts to conceal it's talks from broader inspection and documentation, mp3s to the public are now mostly the works of the 'conscious class' and those exjws who force themselves to endure hours upon hours of control-laced presentations.

  kudos to all those who embody anonymous.

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  Muchas gracias to yknot and her network!
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  The "Theocratic" government of IRAN anounced today haircuts which are banned like Mullets!!! Sound theocratically familiar?

  by Witness 007 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  yes praise allah, the theocratic government of iran today has anounced which haircuts are banned.

  ponytails and mullet cuts will get you punished...{also the jewish cut is out he he}....doesn't it make you glad the witnesses don't have there own country.

  barbers and hairstylists are happy..

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  "hail the the-o-cra-cy ev-er in-crea-sing...."
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  The PERFECT Translation...for Churchoids!

  by theMadJW in

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  2. bible

  http://www.themadjws.com/thercvbible.htm.

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  MadJW, going back to one of your posts from yesterday, you posted a page from the Rev. Climax book and said regarding the WTS: "That's as close as they get to ADMITTING they are just guessing- as we ALL are!"

  And I agree with your statement. But this touches on an issue that bothered me back when I was a practicing, believing JW--namely, why should a "spirit-directed" organization be required to guess? How exactly is the "spirit" directing them? When they screw something up, how (if at all) was the "spirit" involved?

  We take for granted that the people who wrote the Bible were inspired by God and everything they wrote that was recorded as scripture is 100% true. Under that assumption God is capable of communicating clearly to people. So, why is it that God chose to communicate clearly with people 2000+ years ago, but can't be bothered to do so anymore.

  To be frank, it doesn't pass the smell test. Isn't it convenient that God performed miracles, appeared to people via angels, talking animals, and burning shrubberies at a time before video cameras and flash photography were invented? It seems that the God of the Bible (for all his flaws) understood that people needed some kind of supernatural proof to believe in him and to put stock in his representatives. Otherwise, why would he give Moses the power to turn his stick into a snake? Or why did he make Aaron's rod sprout flowers--even after God had killed the usurpers to the priesthood? Or why did Jesus let doubting Thomas touch his wounds?

  If it was OK for people back then to require some tangible proof before accepting that a person or group is God's representative, why not today?